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'...You can make a difference in their lives and create a profitable niche for your practice...'

Firestormm

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Ok so this article came up on my alert this morning, and promptly got me boiling. I mean I know that at the end of the day and in private practice, 'we' are $$ signs waiting to happen; but ppllease....!!

Chiropractic News

Have you considered creating a fibromyalgia niche practice?

By Marc H. Sencer, MD

'...These patients require an inordinate amount of attention and care, and there are few doctors who specialize in treating them.

You can make a difference in their lives and create a profitable niche for your practice at the same time....' $$$$!

'...CFS patients share many of these same symptoms, but extreme fatigue — especially after exertion — night sweats, fevers, and swollen lymph nodes predominate more than widespread pain. Many researchers believe that these are both variants of the same disorder.

Many doctors are uncomfortable treating these patients, because these are chronic conditions with no “cure.” And many patients will have a comorbid psychiatric condition like depression, so making the diagnosis is time intensive.

Despite these hardships, there is a great opportunity for you to take on patients that other doctors in your community simply have no time for. Some of these patients will benefit from very gentle adjustments and palliative modalities. The key word is gentle, as these patients often have altered pain perception and very low pain thresholds. In addition, many are highly sensitive to medications and must be titrated up from almost homeopathic doses.

FM and CFS treatment is best undertaken in an integrated practice. Physical therapy is a mainstay of treatment and one of the main profit centers in this type of practice. $$$$! Occupational therapy also can be helpful. Aerobic exercise has been found to be helpful when started at low levels and increased according to the patient’s tolerance...

FM patients offer an opportunity to provide both services reimbursable by insurance such as physical therapy and trigger point injections, as well as alternative medicine services that are cash based. Because diagnosis is difficult and these patients exhibit multiple comorbid conditions, you also should seek consultations with multiple specialists and family doctors in your community. This will increase referrals and your visibility in the community. $$$$$$!

Marketing this niche is easy. Once word gets out that there is a doctor who understands FM and takes the time to listen, patients will seek you out. $$$$$$!!

Find out if there is an FM or CFS support group in your area and get involved with them. As far as any other external marketing, the Internet takes precedence. These patients are looking for a doctor who can help them, so make sure your website is informative and up to date. Use separate landing pages and be high on Google’s first page for common key word searches such as fibromyalgia doctor or fibromyalgia treatment. $$$$$!

FM patients can be demanding and challenging, but they present the chance to quickly build a niche practice that incorporates multiple cash-based and insurance-based profit centers. In addition, you will be helping an underserved group of people who truly appreciate the time you spend with them. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!

The realities of our disease and clinical practice! Pah! Capitalism at work...
 

xchocoholic

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No surprise here. I believe profit is why the umbrella term cfs or me is being used too. Pots the
syndrome is an umbrella term too. These terms make it easy for the medical profession to throw
drugs our way. We try them, fail and come back for more. $$$

One part of this that I found so disturbing is saying other doctors don't want us a patients. It
completely explains the attitude I got from my ex traditional Doctors. My integrative doctor has
never treated me this way but it took me years to accept that she's not looking down on me. I still feel that
way sometimes tho.

How can people in the health CARE profession be so uncaring ?
 

xchocoholic

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"Fm patients can be demanding and challenging ... " Omg, this author really doesn't appreciate how frustrated patients are about the lack of care he pointed out. Ugh !

I have to stop reading this ... Tc .. X
 

Undisclosed

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Apologies to Kina as putting the link in the above will be sure to attract spammers!!! :)

Why not take it out?

No worries -- it won't make a difference. Just as the sun will rise every day, spammers will spam whether there are links or not. Most of them get caught automatically with our software -- 2,229 in the last month.

Many doctors are uncomfortable treating these patients, because these are chronic conditions with no “cure.”

Yet they don't mind setting up a niche practice to make lots of money off our chronic conditions. Does that make them feel more comfortable?.

FM patients can be demanding and challenging, but they present the chance to quickly build a niche practice that incorporates multiple cash-based and insurance-based profit centers. In addition, you will be helping an underserved group of people who truly appreciate the time you spend with them.

Demanding and challenging? How so, I wonder. Asking for pain relief, interventions related to sleep issues etc? I wonder how this differs from a Cancer patient asking for symptom relief.

I certainly don't appreciate any healthcare provider who is spending time with me in order to make money.

It's unethical. I also don't appreciate wasting my time or energy with any healthcare professional who is talking a lot and saying absolutely nothing especially when I see dollar signs in their eyes.
 

A.B.

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How can people in the health CARE profession be so uncaring ?

Most doctors believe in psychogenic illness. In absence of significant lab abnormalities, they view CFS and the like as some form of self-inflicted mental illness resulting from character flaws similar to alcoholism, severe obesity due to overeating, etc.

Alternatively, doctors may simply grow to dislike a patient that reminds them of their limitations.

Few doctors will admit that they don't know what to do.
 

Creekee

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It would seem to me that any potential patients (of any sort) in the vicinity of Dr. Marc H. Sencer, should be made aware of this delightful, dollar-sign-dripping, devotion to health care.

This appears to be headquarters for his most recent business endeavor:

http://www.mdsfordcs.com/

Which offers:
  • Complete MD DC and DC PT practice startup, medical staffing, chiropractic coaching, and on-going support.
  • Affordable chiropractic consulting and MD DC integration. Month to month. No long-term contracts.
  • We grow your MD DC practice with our comprehensive marketing program and systematic approach.

Apparently, no direct patient contact happenin' at this time. Dang. Guess that's good for patients though.

His bio on that site:

Marc H. Sencer. M.D.
was the Medical Director and founding partner of several highly successful multi-discipline practices. He currently owns and manages a multi-speciality Pain Management Group practice with offices in Boca Raton and Pompano Beach, Florida.

Dr. Sencer has participated in the research and treatment of Fibromyalgia at the University of Miami, and he has been appointed a Visiting Clinical Fellow, Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons.

In 1998, Dr. Sencer founded "MDs for DCs", the only medical staffing company that finds and trains MDs in every speciality to work in Chiropractic offices nationwide.

Dr. Sencer also works as a personal consultant, taking only a small number of practices each year for his highly individualized practice management program.


Fwiw, I couldn't get his name to come up when I searched inside the "Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons" website, although I didn't put any time into it.


The mdsfordcs.com site lists other helpful articles he's authored, like:
"Dealing with the unhappy patient"
"Marketing your practice for mega success"
"Helpful hints to maximize collections"


@Firestorrmm, thanks for starting my day with a BP, HR, body temp boost!
 

xchocoholic

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Most doctors believe in psychogenic illness. In absence of significant lab abnormalities, they view CFS and the like as some form of self-inflicted mental illness resulting from character flaws similar to alcoholism, severe obesity due to overeating, etc.

Alternatively, doctors may simply grow to dislike a patient that reminds them of their limitations.

Few doctors will admit that they don't know what to do.

Hi AB

Nowadays, here in the us imho, there's no excuse for any doctor thinking cfs is psychogenic. There's free access
to health info on the web.

Many of us have positive labs but since cfs is an umbrella term these aren't consistent. You can't put all apples in the
same category if you want to understand their biochemistry. But "cfs" includes apples and oranges.

imho, the problem is that our govt health care system hasn't taken the time to collect
the data on these labs so they know what cfs really is or isn't. Hell, they're still working on the freakin name.

Fwiw, I've yet to meet a doctor who didn't come accross as intelligent enough to know that symptoms are a reflection of our immune system. Sadly, drug companies only want to treat symptoms so traditional doctors aren't trained in
how to look for the root cause of symptoms. Integrative or functional doctors are tho.

So here we are. Many pwcs have treated some or all of their symptoms via diet, supplements or meds and know
more about how to treat cfs or other health issues than most doctors. The numbers of doctors coming on
board is growing tho. Dr mark hyman, dr wahls, etc etc demonstrate this.

There's an article on this site that shows what pwcs need to be tested for. Beyond and Jarod posted it.

Tc .. X

Ps. I'm sure you can all understand that I have to stop reading this thread. My adrenals can't take it.
 

HowToEscape?

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This attitude is one reason I never use a medical chain store. Cancer Centers, Fibro and Fatigue Centers, etc. Even if, as in those two cases, they employ actual MDs and are not total scams, it is a business model first and a medical practice as necessary. Note this appeared in the "Chiropractic News".

A chiro is not an MD; they're often people who failed to get into med school (not that hard when you include options beyond better-known schools), someone who doesn't want to bother with all the work and time involved in doing the real thing or who did a cost/benefit calculation and figure they can have vastly less debt, fewer low-income school and residency years but pull in quite an income with the chiro practice plus whatever else they want to run out of their office. Some of them are pretty good at P/T, some are still futzing with the vertebrae on your back and possibly your neck. Before I knew better I went to a chiro: it did help my back pain, but I won't go back until/unless I'm convinced that tweaking around with your spine beyond indirect, soft tissue fixes like massage is a good idea.

I don't think most docs are like this cretin. My doc is still working well after retirement age; given that most of the patients seem to be on Medicare and there's 3 staff to pay, he's probably just covering expenses and making far less than a normal doc's income. I believe that he's keeping the practice open bc he knows if he retires we'll have nowhere comparable to go. Just about no one who is capable wants to be an ME/CF MD.
 

xchocoholic

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You know what confuses me about all of this, is how easy it is to actually try to help patients heal as opposed to using them as cash cows. Sure, doctors would have to learn some new terminology but they wouldn't be doctors if learning new terminology was difficult for them. Even with my CFS brain and no science background, I've picked up a great deal of terminology in the last 8 years. What I can remember is a whole different story ... :whistle:

And there is as much money to be made, maybe more, from helping patients heal as there is from keeping them sick. I've seen my integrative doctor more in the last few years than I ever saw my regular doctor. She's always fascinating (overwhelming actually) me with her latest knowledge too. I have a lot of health problems tho including kidney stones and seizures so I may not be the "normal" patient for one of these doctors. Regardless, having someone I can trust to navigate the wealth of health info now means I can relax.

So why not set up their practices so they can enjoy having happy trusting patients :) rather than those who only see you because they're being kept sick and mistreated by other health professionals. :eek:

It's a no brainer to me ... tc ... x