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Almost every time I take probiotic I feel negative symptoms after that. I know the explainations and I guess the symptoms also connect to my fungus but I also wonder about the safety of probiotic- Does anybody knows a serious research or a well-reasoned opinion about it?
It might also depend on whether the probiotic you take actually matches what your gut needs! Different probiotics are formulated very differently. You would have to get a good gut test to see what your gut is missing or has too much of, and match that up with the formulation of the probiotic.
Just another thought - I'd been taking probiotics for some time with seemingly little effect until put on a course (following teeth extractions) of Amoxicillan high dose. To repopulate the gut I followed with masses of good probiotics and the result was a great improvement for GI issues.
Using muscle testing, four different probiotics were recommended of at least 2 per day:
Bio-Kult (Probiotics International)
Jarrow Dophilus EPS
Jarrow Dophilus - FOS
Standard Process ProSymbiotic (with inulin and GOS).
it took four months to convert my fungal gut to "normality". Also was on other products to help restore my gut lining. The process was uncomfotable, not because of pain,but because of changes in bowel movements. Not to be graphic, but went through a sticky phase where had to shower after every movement.
Hi,And what about an anti-fungal drug such as fluconazol? And then the probiotics.
Hi, all.
I have come to the view that it is usually necessary to knock out the unfriendlly bacteria, yeasts and parasites (if present) before building the beneficial flora. If one has the financial resources, I think it is best to run a good comprehensive stool test, such as the Metametrix Complete G.I. Function Profile, to see what's there and what is likely to be effective against it, then to treat it, then to build the beneficial bacteria with probiotics that are suitable to replace what is missing, as Sushi suggested.
If finances do not permit stool testing, one can hope to get lucky by treating with a general herbal bowel remedy, such as the Paradex Herbal Formula or Parastroy, and with Candex or Candidase if yeasts are overgrown. A variety of probiotics could then be tried, with emphasis on high bacterial counts of Bifido and Lactobacillus bacteria. It's really best to do the testing to see what you are up against, though.
As always,. I recommend working with a physician.
Best regards,
Rich
Hi Rich,
Thanks! This has been my experience too. I have actually been able to gain weight (even though cutting calories significantly) after this kind of treatment. I had been underweight and eating all the time trying to maintain weight in the few years before.
Note: another good test (especially for those in Europe) is Redlabs Metagenomic stool test. http://www.redlabs.be/red-labs/our-tests/intestinal-dysfunction-assays.php
I counted something like 67 bacteria that it tested.
Best wishes,
Sushi
Yes, but they do not test parasites.
From what I have read I got impression, that intestinal parasites mainly live in small intestine, so scraping rectum will not be very reliable either.True, but I have had a lot of gut testing in the past, and even labs that look for parasites don't reliably find them with stool samples. The best results I had with finding parasites were from taking a scraping from the wall of the rectum as that is where they live. If you "catch them" in a stool sample it is "good luck" but that is not the main place you will find them.
Sushi