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Which glutathione supp is most effective ??

Dreambirdie

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I had great results using the Trans Dermal (TD) Glutathione from Lee Silsby pharmacy. It would clear my MCS toxic reactions within 2-3 hours, which was like a miracle. AND THEN I became allergic to the creams (both the regular and the one for highly sensitive types), and began to break out in a severe 6-week long rash (like poison oak!) whenever I used it. I persisted in spite of the rash for several months, but then it got so hard to live with that I had to give up on it. :(

I have tried the Lipoceutical Glutathione (that Rich recommended), but find it to be very ineffective, even at a double and triple dose.

The TD glut. was just fantastic, and I would like to find something to replace it, so I don't have to go through hell for several days after a toxic exposure.

Has anyone here found a REALLY EFFECTIVE glutathione supp.? If so please let me know.

Thanks.
 

Sallysblooms

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For me, Liposomal GSH, Livon brand is good. I add it to orange juice. Tastes bad, but has been good for me. I take NAC also.
 

Dreambirdie

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Sally--Do you have MCS? And have you tried it out during a toxic reaction to see if it really clears it?

That's my main reason for taking the glut. Otherwise, I am plodding along slowly with the methylation supps, to allow my own body to rebuild its glut. supply.
 

Sallysblooms

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I don't have really bad MCS, but worse than a normal person. I can tolerate perfume on someone for a while. I can't be near someone that smokes or cleaning chemicals. I do not react like many people thankfully. Some cannot leave the house. Not sure about clearing, I just like to keep taking it so I will have Glutathione. I take all supplements that help that and everything else also. I cover all bases.

With Autonomic Neuropathy (Dysautonomia/POTS) it is very important to have it since it is such a good antioxident. So important to heal the nerves.
 

taniaaust1

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Undenatured whey used to be the thing which some of the top ME specialists used to recommend for Glutathione (I dont know if they still do or not), they said it was a lot more efficient then injections of it. Apparently thou not all brands are equal in how well they work thou. http://www.dfwcfids.org/medical/whey.html

My own CFS specialist recommends the one which is by Pharmafood called "Isowhey complete" . I found it did seem to improve my general health too (more energy, feeling healthier), I assume due to boosting the Glutathione. Unfortunately I developed a complete bowel intollerence to the product after a few weeks so thou it did really boost my health, I had no choice but to stop taking it..this is probably the only supplement Ive ever found which seemed to help me in a general health, all over kind of way. I highly recommend for others to trial it. http://www.pharmafoodsprofessional.com.au/IsowheyComplete.aspx
 

Ema

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I had great results using the Trans Dermal (TD) Glutathione from Lee Silsby pharmacy.

Hi Dreambirdie - I'd like to try the TD cream from Silsby. Would you mind sharing the strength and dosing that you found effective for your MCS? Thanks, Ema
 

Dreambirdie

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Hi Ema--I use 1 ml of the TD-glut about 2-3 X/day, until I feel a clearing of my symptoms.

I think I am going to order more and just put up with the rash. :( I had a dental appt on Monday, and almost 48 hours later I still haven't cleared the reaction I got from being there (in that windowless dental office, drenched in perfume and mandatory disinfectant). With the TD-glut I begin to clear the toxins within 4 hours. That's how effective it is for me.
 

Ema

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I did...she said that it is individually prescribed by the doctor. Unfortunately, my doctor is willing to prescribe it but has no idea of the dosing that is typical. That's why I was hoping it said on your bottle...Thanks anyway, though. I'll keep trying.
 

Ema

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Thanks, that would be great. I'll keep trying to find out what the starting dose is as well. Sounds like it is definitely worth a try for my recent exposure to floor stain!
 

Ema

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0.5ml (125mg) twice a day is the most typical dose for either adults or children. Of course that can be adjusted to find the best dose for any individual as well. It's about $70 for a months supply.
 

Adster

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Hey DB. Have you tried making your own TD cream? You can get glutathione caps that will dissolve in water, maybe you could then just rub that on your skin or add it to a base that you know is ok for you.
 

SOC

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A few years ago I did inhaled glutathione (and B12). It did a lot of good for my hypersensitivity rxns and my bronchitis. I got the liquid from Key Pharmacy and used a nebulizer. It was part of a therapy recommended by Dr Grace Ziem, who treats MCS, and Prof Martin Pall. See the Nutritional Therapy section near the middle of this page. http://mcs-america.org/index_files/mcsmedicaltreatment.htm

You do need a prescription for the nebulizeable glutathione and hydroxycobalamin, but even my fussy PCP couldn't find a reason to refuse these common supplements (other than to warn me not to waste my money).

For me, it was definitely worth the effort.
 

Dreambirdie

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I I just mixed it in the smallest amount of water needed to dissolve it. I think if you nebulise your own you need to add bicarb. Worth looking into that before you try, it was quite important I think.

I forgot that I have some liposomal glut. It is liquid. I never feel anything when I take it internally. SO.... would it work if I used it TD?

I will try and see.
 

Adster

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Apparently taking oral glutathione is ineffective, I don't know if that applies to lipsomal or not. I can't see why it wouldn't work TD style, but I'm only speculating!