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I assume the celtic sea salt is prefferential. That's what I found on curezone website. I'm not sure some of the ingredients- aluminum, copper, flouride, are so appropriate for adrenal fatigue/chemically sensitivity and I don't know if I trust the companie's lists and there are no other heavy metals.I would also consider adding Celtic sea salt as adrenals need salt to function correctly. Make sure it is unrefined.
Aldosterone is another very important hormone manufactured by the adrenals. If adrenals are not functioning correctly and a saliva cortisol test indicates low coritsol levels then it is almost a certainty that your levels of aldosterone are low as well. This is going to hold true for any hormone produced in adrenals and quite possibly any neurotransmitters as well.
Unfortunately, there is only one place that produces a natural aldosterone hormone replacement wich is a compounding pharmacy in Canada. Florinef is not a complete alternative for aldosterone.
I've been all through this adrenal thing. Can't tolerate any glandulars or stimulating supplements no matter how many I tried or what form. If you have adrenal fatigue, you will be unable to hold on to your electrolytes. You may have symptoms like heart palps, craving salt, low blood volume, restless legs, etc. Right now I'm doing salt, magnesium, and vitamin C. You could also add potassium but that doesn't seem to be needed in my case.
Rich Vank says that in ME/CFS adrenal fatigue is actually caused upstream from the adrenals - a lack of glutathione in the hypothalamus and pituitary stops the signals the adrenals need to put out cortisol vs. any problems with the adrenals themselves. The solution would be to raise glutathione by working on methylation.
If looking into adrenal hormones like dhea and pregnenolone, i would start with using just one, probably dhea and slowly increase it using very small doses eg 1-2mg of dhea a day and increase in 1-2mg increments until maybe 25mg or what u can handle without any symptoms. Its seems that many with cfs/me have problems tolerating adrenal treatments and can get overstimulated very easily, especially by the recommended doses for non cfs/me people. Generally pregnenolone its said to start at 50mg and increase upto 200-300mg, now this type of dosing would blow our minds, 50mg sent me tropo. After trial and error i found 5mg to be more then enough but eventually found that dhea had more benefits for me then pregnenolone so stopped pregnenolone.
So start really low and go slow, and like already mentioned get all your hormones tested not just adrenal hormones as these treatments can affect sex hormones too so good to see how they affect them too.
cheers!!!
Im not sure on sublingual but i have read that transdermal creams work better then oral pregnenolone. its good to try different routes to take it?I've been taking 25mg of pregnenolone for the past few weeks, but it's a sublingual so I'm guessing it's equivalent to a 50-75mg oral dose. While there are other factors I need to rule out, I am going to lower my dosage and see if that helps.
So I used a bovine Adrenal supplement last year when I had very mild CFS and severe Fibro, it helped a lot! Made me less stiff in the mornings and boosted my energy throughout the day and particularly my mental clarity. I have just started using it again for my now pretty severe ME/CFS and it is seeming to have the same positive effect initially.
Some sources say that it can be quite dangerous to use such supplements but I am not sure...
So I used a bovine Adrenal supplement last year when I had very mild CFS and severe Fibro, it helped a lot! Made me less stiff in the mornings and boosted my energy throughout the day and particularly my mental clarity. I have just started using it again for my now pretty severe ME/CFS and it is seeming to have the same positive effect initially.
Some sources say that it can be quite dangerous to use such supplements but I am not sure...