Hi Freddd,
Since this thread is about Rich asking for input on changes to his methylation protocol, can you redirect questions/answers on your protocol to one of your threads? I know you want to help, but in any thread it's so easy to go 'off topic', which seems to be happening here, especially since your protocol is so different from Rich's.
Hi Rich,
Just my two cents here, but I'm finding that less is more -- especially with all the methyl donors.
I'm currently working w/ Christine Huebner and just taking manganese, b2, b12, and coq10 -- in tiny amounts, relatively speaking. That's a fraction of a capsule or tablet divided into 4-5 doses per day. 2 months ago I could barely walk to my kitchen, let alone stand there to cook or clean up after cooking. I've had to depend on friends/family to help me get to the grocery store, etc., when I used to be able to walk the 3-4 blocks to the store. Admittedly I was pushing myself too hard to keep doing that over the past few years, but in hindsight my downhill trajectory started when I tried ALA chelation in late August 2009, and then the bottom dropped out when my ex-doc
overprescribed the methylation supps back in October 2010. As you probably recall, I thought I was dying (for about 9 months), and lost 10-12 lbs in six months.
But now, six weeks to 2 months since starting this new, more 'restricted' protocol, I'm finding times when my feet don't ache/burn with intensity and I can actually stand for a little longer, and can even walk a little more, and a little 'faster' at times. When I was walking (in a grocery store, for example, or even at home) I was walking very slowly, like a 90 year old man. This improvement started about 2-3 weeks ago, and comes and goes, but it does seem to be an upward trend.
Maybe for some of us, it's more beneficial to proceed
very cautiously, rather than force or push methylation to work properly?
Regarding the non-methylation supps, I agree that the Thorne seems like a step in the right direction, better than the HH version, although again personally, I'm doing 'better' by avoiding ad-b12 for now.
The NT-Factor, seems like it may have the problem that the HH multi does/could -- too many ingredients. Someone may be fine with most of them, but then highly sensitive to one or two of the herbs, which would make it a deal breaker. Just wondering if something like krill oil -- with it's antioxidant astaxanthin, and it's phospholipids -- might be a possible alternative?
Just. My. Two. Cents.
Dan