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Hi Mr. Kite
I'm taken aback. I wasn't expecting another such negative report. You and Acer certainly make a strong and informative one, two punch against neurofeedback. Even though my experiences were strongly positive I would suggest that anyone considering neurofeedback pay close attention to your experiences.
I guess we would all be most critical of that which hurt us and which we had difficulty recovering from. If this were a thread on colon cleansing or primal type therapies I would certainly be writing some serious warnings. I did eventually find a helpful therapist so I wouldn't toss out all psychotherapies but I never found a way to recover from the damage brought on by colon cleansing so my warnings would probably be more universally dire in that area.
Switching gears slightly, perhaps there is still some ready remedy for the damage that has befallen you and Acer. Maybe the right neurofeedback person with more experience and maturity might be able to help? Also did you try to contact Sue Othmer directly. She was direct and honest when her approach was going awry for me. I would like to think she would want to hear from those who were harmed by the methods she and her husband developed.
I would not presume to know enough to recommend this neurofeedback technique or that but I would recommend two people because of the experiences I had with them personally and the lengthy conversations we had. That would be Len Ochs the creator of the LENS method and Les Fehmi who developed multi-synchronous brain wave training and Open Focus attention training. Open Focus by the way is a non-machine approach to working with attention that leads to very balanced states of mind and eeg readings and is easy to learn and inexpensive. It's been one of the most helpful things I've ever used.
Whatever you do I wish you (and all of us) luck in getting out of those damaged states.
Phil
I'm taken aback. I wasn't expecting another such negative report. You and Acer certainly make a strong and informative one, two punch against neurofeedback. Even though my experiences were strongly positive I would suggest that anyone considering neurofeedback pay close attention to your experiences.
I guess we would all be most critical of that which hurt us and which we had difficulty recovering from. If this were a thread on colon cleansing or primal type therapies I would certainly be writing some serious warnings. I did eventually find a helpful therapist so I wouldn't toss out all psychotherapies but I never found a way to recover from the damage brought on by colon cleansing so my warnings would probably be more universally dire in that area.
Switching gears slightly, perhaps there is still some ready remedy for the damage that has befallen you and Acer. Maybe the right neurofeedback person with more experience and maturity might be able to help? Also did you try to contact Sue Othmer directly. She was direct and honest when her approach was going awry for me. I would like to think she would want to hear from those who were harmed by the methods she and her husband developed.
I would not presume to know enough to recommend this neurofeedback technique or that but I would recommend two people because of the experiences I had with them personally and the lengthy conversations we had. That would be Len Ochs the creator of the LENS method and Les Fehmi who developed multi-synchronous brain wave training and Open Focus attention training. Open Focus by the way is a non-machine approach to working with attention that leads to very balanced states of mind and eeg readings and is easy to learn and inexpensive. It's been one of the most helpful things I've ever used.
Whatever you do I wish you (and all of us) luck in getting out of those damaged states.
Phil