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NHS, now 20 hospitals to be run by foreign companies

SilverbladeTE

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The privatization of the NHS is on the way...just like folk warned
every Tory voter should spend time in Hell for this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14778406

NHS hospital management by overseas firms 'discussed'Comments (372)

MPs are due to debate the health bill this week


Senior officials have discussed handing the management of up to 20 English NHS hospitals to overseas companies, emails released by the government indicate.

Talks included plans for 10 to 20 hospitals but starting with one hospital at a time, the Observer says.

It comes as Lib Dem peer Shirley Williams said she had "huge concerns" over the NHS reform plans.

Health Secretary Andrew Lansley says claims the government aims to privatise the NHS are "ludicrous scaremongering".

The emails were released after a Freedom of Information request by non-profit investigations organisation Spinwatch, which monitors public relations and spin.

They are reported to show that consulting firm McKinsey was acting as a broker between the Department of Health and "international players" for contracts worth hundreds of millions of pounds.

One email talks about "interest in new solution for 10-20 hospitals but starting from a mindset of one at a time with various political constraints".

The Observer reported that the "international hospital provider groups" would want certain conditions regarding taking over the hospitals, such as "a free hand on staff management", but that the NHS would be allowed to "keep real estate and pensions".

Continue reading the main story
Analysis
Nick Triggle

Health correspondent, BBC News

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In any market, there is always a rump of organisations that struggle. The NHS is no different - and for the past 20 years successive governments have been wondering what to do with them.

The 10-20 figure represents less than a tenth of trusts. They tend to be the most badly run, attract the least patients and have the largest debts. If they were private sector groups they would simply shrivel and die.

But the natural reaction of the NHS is to look at new ways of running them. This can involve parachuting in NHS managers from top-performing hospitals, mergers with larger organisations or - as these emails show - bringing in the private sector.

This model has already been proposed for one hospital - Hinchingbrooke in Cambridgeshire. Under the plans, private managers will run the trust but the services will remain NHS.

However, there is a growing consensus that there needs to be a more brutal approach - the closure of some units.
The Department of Health said it was not unusual to hold meetings with external organisations and that NHS staff and assets would always remain wholly owned by the NHS.

The government is in the process of trying to overhaul the way the NHS in England works, giving GPs and other clinicians much more responsibility for spending and encouraging greater competition with the private sector.

The controversial plans have been labelled some of the most radical in the history of the health service.

Legal duty

Mr Lansley said: "The reality is that we're giving more power and choice to patients over how they get treated, keeping waiting times low and cutting bureaucracy so more cash gets to the front line.

"We will not allow these lies to block the progress we want to achieve for patients."

The government's plans were put on hold in the spring after criticisms from MPs and health unions. A series of concessions to the Health and Social Care Bill were proposed and MPs will debate the legislation this week.

Meanwhile, Lady Williams said the battle over bill was "far from over" and the reforms "need not mean upheaval and disintegration".

'Flawed US system'

Writing in the Observer, she said: "The central issue is whether, if the bill is passed without further amendment, there will be any legal duty... to provide and secure a comprehensive health service for the people of England, free at the point of need - the heart of what the NHS is all about."

She added: "I am not against a private element in the NHS, which may bring innovation and good practice, provided it is within the framework of a public service - complementary but not wrecking.

"But why have they been bewitched by a flawed US system?"

Her comments follow renewed demonstrations against the reforms this weekend by health workers across England.

Candlelit vigils and protests were held in areas including London, Reading, Cambridge, Norwich, Sunderland, Manchester, Brighton, Leeds and Portsmouth.

Christina McAnea, head of health at the union Unison, said: "People are rightly proud of an NHS that puts patient need before private profit, and voting through this Bill will be the end of the NHS as we know it."

once you have private hospitals and rule by corporations, it's DEATH for the chronically ill who ain't well off.
More bloody reason for Scotland to ditch the Union and rebuild Hadrian's freakin' Wall! Though we'll extend the courtesy to rebuild the wall a bit south of Liverpool if the Northern English wish ;)
 

orion

Senior Member
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UK
It totally stinks.

However, from our perspective does it really matter? We're not getting any treatment anyway. So can it really get any worse for us?
 

*GG*

senior member
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Concord, NH
It totally stinks.

However, from our perspective does it really matter? We're not getting any treatment anyway. So can it really get any worse for us?

that's what I was wondering? Perhaps if/when your disease is recognized, things will get better?

GG
 

SilverbladeTE

Senior Member
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Location
Somewhere near Glasgow, Scotland
It means the end of the NHS, that's what.
Eventual privatization of UK healthcare.
How many of us can afford or would be taken on by a private insurance scheme?
How many of us get free or cheap presciptions for pain killers etc?
And..in general, what it means ot the people of the entire UK, like our families.
 

jace

Off the fence
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Location
England
38 degrees are working hard on this issue. If you want to help, by all the means they suggest, check out the site. Here's the link to the legal review of the Health and Social Care bill http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/content/NHS-legal-advice/
Loss of Accountability Local representatives and health watchdogs lose their right to appeal
Because the Government is removing the Secretary of States duty to ensure the NHS delivers an appropriate service, appeals from locally elected council bodies and health watchdogs will no longer be decided by the Secretary of State but if any rights of appeal survive by a national quango.

Postcode lottery
Because of changes in the bill there is a real risk of an increase in the postcode lottery nature of the delivery of some NHS services. The power to choose what health services are closed or improved in a local area will be passed on to local unelected bodies with little scope for the government to intervene. This will mean patients can no longer expect the government to ensure a consistent level of healthcare regardless of where they live.

There's lots more on that site.

Apologies to non-UK members, this video will only be watchable from the UK, but for the most affected, even business Tzar Sir Gerry Robinson thinks the reforms are a crock of poo. He explores the issues in a half-hour Panorama program from last Monday.

[video]http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b014gr72/Panorama_Gerry_and_the_GPs/[/video]
 

JPV

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We are slowly but surely entering into an era of neo-feudalism. All the letter writing and petition signing is completely useless. Nothing short of violent revolution will fix the problem, at this stage of the game.