My starting point is that if something is published in a reasonably credible journal then it is worth considering, no matter who wrote or why. To do otherwise is to deny the acknowledged process of science, which is to aggregate all pertinent information and make judgements accordingly.
Hmm...but are there any 'reasonably credible journals' though, I wonder? I certainly do emphatically deny the 'acknowledged process of science', based on the total garbage science I've read from the denialist camp, and especially gibberish like the PACE trial and other psych research, over the last year. It's brought the entirety of the scientific process into sharp relief, and its putting science into a similar crisis state to that which we see over the climate change debate and other areas of politicised science. People have seen enough BS now, that they don't trust science any more. The 'acknowledged process of science' will either undergo radical reform, or public confidence in science will die out. Unless science can regain its independence, and use the internet to foster a radically new kind of transparency, it will evolve into a mere ideological tool of repression.
This isn't terribly new for me: I work at a university, in admin, and many of my friends and colleagues are former academics who have left academia in disgust at the lack of academic freedom and the distortion of the research agenda by financial interests. Those left inside the system doubtless don't see the scale of the problem, but the smart people on the outside see a total crisis. How many times have I heard people tell me their privately-funded research was not submitted for publication because it reached 'the wrong answer', and that being privately-funded it will never see the light of day? Often enough to have no faith left at all in what the 'credible journals' tell me...
That researchers have biases is inevitable and the further in science one moves away from observational experimentation the greater the capacity for researcher bias to play a role - but if one accepts that epidemiology is valid and necessary then one has to accept the data , whatever the source and make of it what one can.
Researchers' biases are one thing. Systematic biases introduced by the changed nature of research funding and the dominance of powerful financial interests are quite another. Yes, we have no choice but to look at the data and make of it what we will - but with awareness of the direction that the powerful political interests skew the whole picture, we can reasonably expect to then have to shift the entire picture massively in the other direction, and disregard whole swathes of industry-funded research, in order to form a realistic picture.
I do still read stuff like PACE and all the other garbage research, but mostly with the perspective of noting what certain people are taking pains to tell us is
not true, on the assumption that whatever they're taking pains to debunk probably
is true. That's especially true of British science: when I read a big British study finding that there's no correlation between mobile phone use and brain cancer after all, I take that as evidence that there probably
is.
At a pragmatic level my view is that, no matter how repugnant one may find the work of some Psychiatry biased researchers, it is not smart for M.E/CFS sufferers to reject the work of those researchers out of hand, or to insult individual researchers.
I agree, and you explain well why that strategy isn't smart or productive - though it's a perfectly natural reaction. We do need to debunk garbage like the PACE trial through reason and careful analysis, but the problem then becomes: there are too few of us, we are too disorganised and challenged by our health, and the other side of the argument is hugely powerful, completely unprincipled, and controls the media completely on this subject: so the reasonable and scientific response doesn't work any more. We seem to be fighting a losing battle when we engage on those terms. It's a dangerous situation, because inevitably people will eventually find other ways to resist if the scientific and rational route is denied them.
Psychiatry has many problems, and there are many more people with mental health diagnoses than there are CFS suferers, who are experiencing the inadequacies of this area of medicine. We may find it especially unpleasant to have gained the attention of psychiatrists because we believe that psychiatry has no part to play in supporting us, but the underlying problems extend far beyond M.E/CFS, and beyond a few individual psychiatrists. To achieve change will require systematic change in psychiatry as a whole, until that is advanced, Wessely, White etc will retain legitimacy because they are doing no more than extending 'normal psychiatric' practice' to M.E/CFS - attacking them for doing that will not gain sympathy at administrative or political levels. Ironically if M.E/CFS affected people really want to change the situation, it will require making common cause with those who have mental health diangoses in efforts to change the way psychiatry works.
Way cool! I agree totally with that. I think we all tend to be so focused on the illegitimate way we've been funnelled into the psychiatric camp that our response is mainly to try to get out - but it seems to me equally important to realise that the way our illness is mistreated is not unique, and that those with other mental health diagnoses are actually in much the same boat! Our experience should cast a spotlight on the field of psychiatry as a whole and make us realise that we are in many ways just the tip of an iceberg.
I'd better finish by saying that the above are my personal views, not those of PR in general!
Cort would tend to give much more credence to all published research and be far less cynical about it than me...I guess he'd say much the same as you, IVI - but then, he doesn't live in the UK, lucky fellow...