judderwocky
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reeves?
what is he like undead at this point?
(also... shameless plug for the petition BELOW)
what is he like undead at this point?
(also... shameless plug for the petition BELOW)
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These quotes were posted to the Association's FB page this morning
Study of XMRV in CFS published today in the journal Retrovirology by authors at the CDC, Robert-Koch Institute (Germany) and Blood Systems Research Institute (USA). More to follow later today about this study and the status of the study from NIH.
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Dr. Alter and many others studying XMRV and related blood safety issues are attending the 31st meeting of the International Blood Society Transfusion meeting in Berlin (June 26-July1), so the NIH Office of Comm. and Public Liaison provided his statement. We'll pass along more information about the status of the paper as soon as it is available.
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LMAO!!!! Thanks for that!
WMS, WCR, RMH and WH conceived and designed the study. WCR and VRF provided
specimens and data on study population. HJ, HZ, ST, AS, GS, NB, and OH performed
specimen testing and data analysis with WMS and WH. WMS, WCR and WH wrote the
manuscript. All authors read and approved the final manuscript.
It is testament to the CDC's apparently desperate desire to bury any notion of a link between CFS/ME and XMRV that they :
1. Conduct a study with the objective of studying XMRV in a certain cohort v's healthy controls
2. Find no evidence of XMRV at all
3. Leap to the conclusion that there is no association between XMRV and CFS/ME
4. Don't examine the alternative explanations for their findings.
"Do I feel healthy? Well, I'm a bit upset about my childhood but other than that I'm fine."
LMAO!!!! Thanks for that!
I want to make it clear at the outset, I am appalled that anyone would suggest infecting innocent people with this nightmare.No more on blood donation, etc...)
FINCH: Sorry about your Dad.
All I need to do is to think about my beautiful, bright 9 year old niece and adorable 16 month old nephew and it makes me even more nuts that they may get CFIDS.
It's over for me, but not for the young ones. So that's why I keep fighting. The young ones -- I could lay on the floor and cry thinking about THEM and other children/young people getting CFIDS.
Just go into a state of despair and sob...
As far as admitting to being wrong, there will be no need for that. In background checking with my scientific associates who are doing validation research on XMRV research, it appears from preliminary results that soon there will be a number of incontrovertible publications that totally discredit any linkage for ME/CFS/XAND to XMRV or any other pathogen.
Its all in these patients heads. And now, yet again, they have drawn a small number of naive and gullible scientists in; this will result in destroyed careers and great humiliation for them. At least it will be some time before the CDC’s agenda to “CFS” is challenged again.
I think Alter has pulled his own paper, muffin. Last week he said it was about to be published, and today said:
Our paper has not yet been accepted for publication.
It is a complete contradiction, in just over a week. Our future could be in the hands of one man now, Dr. Alter, and I doubt emailing him would cause him to have a change of heart. It is not about science anymore. We all knew the CDC paper would be negative, but by then we were privy to Alter’s leaked paper. He became our shining knight, and I certainly didn‘t believe he would ever consider changing his results to suit anyone. I thought his agenda was the donor population, and blood safety.
But if he 'rewrites' his paper, and concurs with the CDC, we could be doomed!!
I dont get it, when I went to bed last night the news was both papers have been held, I got an email last night from Jerry Holmberg telling me the papers were under review, I go to sleep and a few hours later the CDC paper is out!! whats going on???
Statement from Dr. Harvey Alter, transmitted by the NIH Office of Communication and Public Liaison: "Our paper has not yet been accepted for publication. My colleagues and I are conducting additional experiments to ensure that the data are accurate and complete. Our goal is not speed, but scientific accuracy." Harvey A...lter, M.D
WHY HAS THE CDC NOT BEEN MADE TO GO OVER THERE STUDY AGAIN!!!!
I think Alter has pulled his own paper, muffin. Last week he said it was about to be published, and today said:
Our paper has not yet been accepted for publication.
It is a complete contradiction, in just over a week. Our future could be in the hands of one man now, Dr. Alter, and I doubt emailing him would cause him to have a change of heart. It is not about science anymore. We all knew the CDC paper would be negative, but by then we were privy to Alters leaked paper. He became our shining knight, and I certainly didnt believe he would ever consider changing his results to suit anyone. I thought his agenda was the donor population, and blood safety.
But if he 'rewrites' his paper, and concurs with the CDC, we could be doomed!!
Please take that unethical talk off the forums. The rest of us want nothing to do with infecting kids.